1 00:00:01,620 --> 00:00:04,517 [ominous music playing] 2 00:00:14,172 --> 00:00:15,862 [man] Breaking news. A murder mystery 3 00:00:15,965 --> 00:00:17,689 emerges in the woods. 4 00:00:17,793 --> 00:00:19,724 Three people are dead. 5 00:00:19,827 --> 00:00:22,241 Police are now on a manhunt for the killer, 6 00:00:22,344 --> 00:00:25,517 and they are searching across Florida. 7 00:00:25,620 --> 00:00:27,137 In a house in Chuluota, 8 00:00:27,241 --> 00:00:29,896 police discovered a family murdered. 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,379 A couple in their 50s 10 00:00:31,482 --> 00:00:33,379 and their son, in his 30s, 11 00:00:33,482 --> 00:00:35,103 were found dead. 12 00:00:35,206 --> 00:00:36,931 And now, this just in. 13 00:00:37,034 --> 00:00:39,551 The prime suspect is a family member, 14 00:00:39,655 --> 00:00:41,068 Grant Amato. 15 00:00:41,172 --> 00:00:44,896 Officials say he is armed and dangerous. 16 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,551 [detective speaking] 17 00:00:53,793 --> 00:00:56,689 [detective speaking] 18 00:01:05,586 --> 00:01:08,448 [ominous music playing] 19 00:01:10,862 --> 00:01:12,000 [man speaking] 20 00:01:12,103 --> 00:01:13,620 [man speaking] 21 00:01:13,724 --> 00:01:15,724 [man speaking] 22 00:01:15,827 --> 00:01:19,172 [man] The thing inside of me, it's like... 23 00:01:19,275 --> 00:01:20,206 the appetite. 24 00:01:20,310 --> 00:01:23,206 It's like a wolf that's... 25 00:01:23,310 --> 00:01:25,137 feeling... 26 00:01:25,241 --> 00:01:27,103 the hunger. 27 00:01:30,724 --> 00:01:33,620 [ominous music playing] 28 00:01:40,482 --> 00:01:44,137 [officer speaks indistinctly] 29 00:01:44,241 --> 00:01:45,827 [officer] Yeah, that's balding, right? 30 00:01:45,931 --> 00:01:47,448 - [officer] Yeah. - [officer] Yeah. 31 00:01:47,551 --> 00:01:50,413 [ominous music playing] 32 00:01:53,068 --> 00:01:54,034 Okay. 33 00:01:57,724 --> 00:01:58,862 - [officer] Yeah. - Okay. 34 00:02:17,793 --> 00:02:19,689 Okay. I see his body. 35 00:02:29,793 --> 00:02:32,931 [indistinct radio chatter] 36 00:02:33,034 --> 00:02:33,862 [officer speaking] 37 00:02:33,965 --> 00:02:35,275 Let me get to it. 38 00:02:35,379 --> 00:02:36,344 [officer] Yes. 39 00:02:38,172 --> 00:02:40,241 [officer speaking] 40 00:02:44,758 --> 00:02:47,689 [officer speaking] 41 00:02:47,793 --> 00:02:57,000 [ominous music playing] 42 00:03:07,068 --> 00:03:08,034 [detective speaking] 43 00:03:10,862 --> 00:03:14,827 [man speaking] 44 00:03:24,931 --> 00:03:29,965 [detective speaking] 45 00:03:34,586 --> 00:03:39,655 [Grant speaking] 46 00:03:39,758 --> 00:03:43,103 [detective speaking] 47 00:03:49,206 --> 00:03:54,310 [detective speaking] 48 00:04:04,517 --> 00:04:06,413 [Dr. Charles] He's actually being very concrete. 49 00:04:06,517 --> 00:04:08,413 I don't think that he has the ability 50 00:04:08,517 --> 00:04:11,206 to experience that empathy. 51 00:04:11,310 --> 00:04:14,034 The tone of his voice is strange. 52 00:04:14,137 --> 00:04:16,655 It's got a teletype in tone. 53 00:04:16,758 --> 00:04:20,206 It is related to that lack of emotional connectivity, 54 00:04:20,310 --> 00:04:22,344 that empathy, that ability 55 00:04:22,448 --> 00:04:25,206 to convey emotions to other people 56 00:04:25,310 --> 00:04:27,862 and hear emotions from other people. 57 00:04:27,965 --> 00:04:31,034 That is a sign of psychopathy in him. 58 00:04:31,137 --> 00:04:34,379 [detective speaking] 59 00:04:34,482 --> 00:04:36,034 [Grant speaking] 60 00:04:36,137 --> 00:04:39,344 [detective speaking] 61 00:04:39,448 --> 00:04:41,000 [Grant speaking] 62 00:04:41,103 --> 00:04:44,551 [detective speaking] 63 00:04:44,655 --> 00:04:46,620 [Grant speaking] 64 00:04:47,931 --> 00:04:50,827 [detective speaking] 65 00:04:53,931 --> 00:04:56,827 [ominous music playing] 66 00:05:01,206 --> 00:05:04,068 [detective speaking] 67 00:05:23,931 --> 00:05:28,620 [man speaking] 68 00:05:28,724 --> 00:05:31,689 [detective speaking] 69 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,448 [Dr. Charles] They want to get an emotional hook 70 00:05:42,551 --> 00:05:44,724 in the person so they can play on guilt, 71 00:05:44,827 --> 00:05:47,275 sadness, or remorse, 72 00:05:47,379 --> 00:05:49,413 and then get the person to confess. 73 00:05:49,517 --> 00:05:51,241 For Grant Amato, 74 00:05:51,344 --> 00:05:53,482 this technique is not likely to work. 75 00:05:53,586 --> 00:05:54,931 They are trying to tap into emotions 76 00:05:55,034 --> 00:05:56,482 that simply aren't there. 77 00:05:56,586 --> 00:05:59,448 [ominous music playing] 78 00:06:05,620 --> 00:06:07,758 [man speaking] 79 00:06:09,620 --> 00:06:12,517 [Grant speaking] 80 00:06:21,448 --> 00:06:22,965 [man speaking] 81 00:06:23,068 --> 00:06:24,172 [Grant speaking] 82 00:06:25,448 --> 00:06:28,827 [Grant speaking] 83 00:06:45,448 --> 00:06:46,413 [man speaking] 84 00:06:51,241 --> 00:06:52,241 [man speaking] 85 00:06:57,241 --> 00:07:00,206 [man speaking] 86 00:07:02,793 --> 00:07:05,689 [man speaking] 87 00:07:14,689 --> 00:07:17,586 [man speaking] 88 00:07:23,793 --> 00:07:27,034 He blew $200,000 89 00:07:27,137 --> 00:07:30,275 essentially on virtual reality that he stole. 90 00:07:30,379 --> 00:07:31,517 There's obsession, 91 00:07:31,620 --> 00:07:33,689 there's impulse control problems, 92 00:07:33,793 --> 00:07:37,000 and there's lack of recognition 93 00:07:37,103 --> 00:07:38,413 that in stealing this money, 94 00:07:38,517 --> 00:07:41,413 he harmed his family. 95 00:07:41,517 --> 00:07:43,413 [Dr. Charles] He's taking it secretly 96 00:07:43,517 --> 00:07:47,000 which is much more than exploitative and parasitic, 97 00:07:47,103 --> 00:07:50,172 so that's more of the psychopathy realm. 98 00:07:50,275 --> 00:07:53,344 He's going to use them or their money 99 00:07:53,448 --> 00:07:56,206 so that he can get what he wants. 100 00:07:56,310 --> 00:08:02,827 [ominous music playing] 101 00:08:11,241 --> 00:08:13,655 [woman speaking] 102 00:08:45,827 --> 00:08:55,827 ♪♪ 103 00:09:05,827 --> 00:09:15,758 ♪♪ 104 00:09:15,862 --> 00:09:19,241 [Dr. Charles] Grant has lost himself in fantasy. 105 00:09:19,344 --> 00:09:22,448 People who suffer from what we call erotomania 106 00:09:22,551 --> 00:09:24,379 fall in love with people 107 00:09:24,482 --> 00:09:27,275 who don't actually really have a relationship with them. 108 00:09:27,379 --> 00:09:29,551 It is more than an obsession. 109 00:09:29,655 --> 00:09:31,310 We refer to is a delusion. 110 00:09:31,413 --> 00:09:36,068 Delusions are really beliefs that are firmly held 111 00:09:36,172 --> 00:09:38,448 in spite of evidence to the contrary. 112 00:09:38,551 --> 00:09:47,827 ♪ 113 00:09:57,758 --> 00:10:01,206 [Dr. Chitra] The fantastical imaginary connection 114 00:10:01,310 --> 00:10:04,034 is making him feel alive 115 00:10:04,137 --> 00:10:05,931 whereas when he's being interrogated, 116 00:10:06,034 --> 00:10:08,448 he's a shell of a man. 117 00:10:08,551 --> 00:10:09,724 The fact that they're interacting 118 00:10:09,827 --> 00:10:11,655 where she's nonglamorous 119 00:10:11,758 --> 00:10:14,586 is contributing to his delusional belief 120 00:10:14,689 --> 00:10:17,137 that it's a reciprocal relationship. 121 00:10:17,241 --> 00:10:19,931 He believes this is real, that she is real. 122 00:10:20,034 --> 00:10:24,655 He doesn't seem to understand that this is about money. 123 00:10:24,758 --> 00:10:26,482 If she were real, he wouldn't know what to do, 124 00:10:26,586 --> 00:10:28,551 she would be too alive, too overwhelming, 125 00:10:28,655 --> 00:10:31,275 too threatening, too beautiful. 126 00:10:31,379 --> 00:10:35,068 And feel that he couldn't perform. 127 00:10:35,172 --> 00:10:42,482 [suspenseful music playing] 128 00:10:52,586 --> 00:10:53,931 [Dr. Charles] What we're looking at 129 00:10:54,034 --> 00:10:58,965 are... Is an itemized list of issues and rules 130 00:10:59,068 --> 00:11:03,344 that the family would like him to adhere to. 131 00:11:03,448 --> 00:11:05,862 Current Grant responsibilities. 132 00:11:05,965 --> 00:11:08,344 A, get job, 133 00:11:08,448 --> 00:11:10,482 this is absolutely a threat. 134 00:11:10,586 --> 00:11:13,344 Owes family apology. 135 00:11:13,448 --> 00:11:15,137 And in parentheses, 136 00:11:15,241 --> 00:11:19,344 we don't expect due to lack of real feelings. 137 00:11:19,448 --> 00:11:20,862 I believe the family noticed 138 00:11:20,965 --> 00:11:23,344 the signs of psychopathy over the years 139 00:11:23,448 --> 00:11:27,137 that lack of genuine connectivity, 140 00:11:27,241 --> 00:11:29,413 of follow through with what he was saying he would do. 141 00:11:36,793 --> 00:11:38,482 [man speaking] 142 00:11:48,241 --> 00:11:51,137 All right, Sylvie, look at me, I am... 143 00:11:51,241 --> 00:11:53,379 I'm outside, 144 00:11:53,482 --> 00:11:56,103 going to check the mail. 145 00:11:56,206 --> 00:12:00,000 And I'm asking you if you can please, 146 00:12:00,103 --> 00:12:02,586 pretty please, 147 00:12:02,689 --> 00:12:05,586 send me one of your videos. 148 00:12:05,689 --> 00:12:07,000 I just... I've love it so much 149 00:12:07,103 --> 00:12:08,586 when you just send them to me. 150 00:12:08,689 --> 00:12:10,896 Yeah, I don't like buying your stuff, 151 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,413 it makes me feel weird. 152 00:12:13,517 --> 00:12:16,517 Would you please send me one though? 153 00:12:16,620 --> 00:12:19,275 He wants a free video because he doesn't 154 00:12:19,379 --> 00:12:21,758 have any other way to get it, he doesn't have money. 155 00:12:21,862 --> 00:12:24,758 But also because then it would be evidence 156 00:12:24,862 --> 00:12:27,172 that Sylvie truly loves him 157 00:12:27,275 --> 00:12:29,344 and that it's not a fantasy relationship, 158 00:12:29,448 --> 00:12:31,793 it's reciprocal. 159 00:12:31,896 --> 00:12:33,931 The key thing here is he's not able 160 00:12:34,034 --> 00:12:36,551 to attach to real people 161 00:12:36,655 --> 00:12:40,000 and this is only possible in a virtual way. 162 00:12:45,862 --> 00:12:52,724 [Grant speaking] 163 00:12:59,689 --> 00:13:02,206 [suspenseful music playing] 164 00:13:02,310 --> 00:13:03,896 [detective speaking] 165 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:09,379 [Grant speaking] 166 00:13:09,482 --> 00:13:14,862 [detective speaking] 167 00:13:18,827 --> 00:13:21,758 [detective speaking] 168 00:13:24,827 --> 00:13:27,758 [Grant speaking] 169 00:13:30,103 --> 00:13:31,758 [detective speaking] 170 00:13:31,862 --> 00:13:33,551 [Grant speaking] 171 00:13:41,448 --> 00:13:42,896 You're seeing somebody expressing 172 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,965 a pretty psychopathic trait. 173 00:13:45,068 --> 00:13:47,724 I'll just throw my brother and the family under the bus 174 00:13:47,827 --> 00:13:49,000 even though I killed them. 175 00:13:49,103 --> 00:13:51,172 Uh, there's no empathy there. 176 00:13:53,517 --> 00:13:55,172 [Dr. Chitra] This is consistently being driven 177 00:13:55,275 --> 00:13:57,724 by a delusional belief that he's gonna get back 178 00:13:57,827 --> 00:14:00,206 together with Sylvie. 179 00:14:00,310 --> 00:14:03,655 It's a very cold move in the name of love. 180 00:14:23,758 --> 00:14:32,620 [man speaking] 181 00:14:40,517 --> 00:14:44,379 [Grant speaking] 182 00:14:53,758 --> 00:15:03,137 ♪♪ 183 00:15:03,241 --> 00:15:13,000 [detective speaking] 184 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,482 [Dr. Charles] The frustration when 185 00:15:24,586 --> 00:15:25,827 the policeman was sitting there 186 00:15:25,931 --> 00:15:27,724 is that he can't believe it. 187 00:15:27,827 --> 00:15:30,551 When you meet with someone who has psychopathy, 188 00:15:30,655 --> 00:15:33,482 uh, it's as if part of us refuses to believe 189 00:15:33,586 --> 00:15:37,517 that someone could be so callus and so uncaring. 190 00:15:37,620 --> 00:15:40,206 That's what the policeman's responding to 191 00:15:40,310 --> 00:15:41,689 and that's what you see and feel 192 00:15:41,793 --> 00:15:44,034 with people who have psychopathy. 193 00:15:44,137 --> 00:15:46,344 There is no human glue, 194 00:15:46,448 --> 00:15:47,965 there's no emotional glue 195 00:15:48,068 --> 00:15:51,551 that connects you to them. 196 00:15:51,655 --> 00:15:54,344 [Dr. Chitra] The detachment is interesting to me 197 00:15:54,448 --> 00:15:57,034 and this detachment seems to have carried over 198 00:15:57,137 --> 00:16:00,241 into this rage in a sort of a tool if you will 199 00:16:00,344 --> 00:16:03,275 that let him plan and carry out this murder. 200 00:16:03,379 --> 00:16:11,000 [suspenseful music playing] 201 00:16:20,862 --> 00:16:23,275 [Jason speaking] 202 00:16:30,206 --> 00:16:32,068 [suspenseful music playing] 203 00:16:34,517 --> 00:16:37,413 [Jason speaking] 204 00:16:46,586 --> 00:16:56,517 ♪♪ 205 00:17:06,586 --> 00:17:14,862 ♪♪ 206 00:17:14,965 --> 00:17:17,862 [Jason speaking] 207 00:17:27,586 --> 00:17:37,586 ♪♪ 208 00:17:43,034 --> 00:17:44,344 Over the months 209 00:17:44,448 --> 00:17:47,103 - and everything like that. - [Jason] Okay. 210 00:17:47,206 --> 00:17:48,862 He seems to have slipped up when he said, 211 00:17:48,965 --> 00:17:51,586 "I know what I've done to everybody." 212 00:17:51,689 --> 00:17:54,482 Then he catches himself. 213 00:17:54,586 --> 00:17:57,551 He can't forgive his family because he blames them 214 00:17:57,655 --> 00:18:04,448 for ruining his fantasy love. 215 00:18:14,448 --> 00:18:16,344 [Jason speaking] 216 00:18:16,448 --> 00:18:19,344 [Grant speaking] 217 00:18:27,275 --> 00:18:30,137 [Jason speaking] 218 00:18:38,586 --> 00:18:39,551 [Grant speaking] 219 00:18:39,655 --> 00:18:42,551 [Jason speaking] 220 00:18:52,517 --> 00:19:02,482 ♪♪ 221 00:19:02,586 --> 00:19:12,517 [suspenseful music playing] 222 00:19:22,517 --> 00:19:32,172 ♪♪ 223 00:19:32,275 --> 00:19:34,275 [Dr. Chitra] We should all make sure we understand 224 00:19:34,379 --> 00:19:36,241 what's real, what's not 225 00:19:36,344 --> 00:19:39,758 and put a little extra effort in connecting, 226 00:19:39,862 --> 00:19:41,827 in a real, honest, open-hearted way, 227 00:19:41,931 --> 00:19:44,448 he couldn't, he wanted to, but he couldn't. 228 00:19:44,551 --> 00:19:46,137 Those of us who can, 229 00:19:46,241 --> 00:19:49,103 we should not take it for granted. 230 00:19:50,724 --> 00:19:55,137 [man speaking] 231 00:20:05,275 --> 00:20:15,241 ♪♪ 232 00:20:25,172 --> 00:20:28,241 [man] The verdict is finally in. 233 00:20:28,344 --> 00:20:30,172 [woman] We, the jury, find the defendant guilty 234 00:20:30,275 --> 00:20:32,827 of first degree premeditated murder. 235 00:20:32,931 --> 00:20:35,793 [man] Grant Amato was found guilty of three counts 236 00:20:35,896 --> 00:20:37,448 of first degree murder. 237 00:20:37,551 --> 00:20:39,620 The state successfully argued 238 00:20:39,724 --> 00:20:41,448 that he murdered his family 239 00:20:41,551 --> 00:20:44,172 over his love for a webcam model, 240 00:20:44,275 --> 00:20:49,413 stealing about $200,000 from them to pay her. 241 00:20:49,517 --> 00:20:52,379 [suspenseful music playing]